A, It appears i got to pay for this twice. B. Not being able to get to the forms themselves created difficulties, and having to parse through the "help' [omg, really???!!!] panels to find simple things -- like where are the estimated tax payments entered [[ and d***, THAT was sure non- intuitive]] added to the severe anger i regularly experience with this process every year. Seriously considering finding another method for next year[ssss].