The mattress is just so low on our bed and I'm not sure my husband has been wowed by it yet, either, as far as helping his back feel any different. I guess it's for a low modern frame as opposed To our sleigh bed that makes it look less substantial. We are used to a lot thicker, taller memory foam mattress
I have the mattress + topper. It was really convenient and is pretty comfortable, but the topper slides on the mattress and that kind of annoys me. If there was a way to prevent that, I would be happier.