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CyberPowerPC - Gamer Ultra Gaming Desktop - AMD Ryzen 5 1400 - 8GB Memory - AMD Radeon RX 580 - 1TB Hard Drive - Black

Experience heavy-duty gaming action with this CyberPowerPC Gamer Ultra computer. Its 1TB hard drive has room to store the latest video adventures, and its AMD Ryzen R5 chip provides speedy processing for real-time player interaction. This CyberPowerPC Gamer Ultra computer has 8GB of DDR4 RAM for smooth operations, even with multiple windows open.

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Unrivaled Value, Nearly Perfect Midrange Build

on July 4, 2017

Posted by: vsaviour

I use this machine for light gaming on a 1080p monitor and casual mining otherwise (I didn't believe them at first but you actually make a few dollars a day doing no work yourself and the ROI is much much higher than stocks or bonds). Here is the part list after taking it apart:
https://pcpartpicker.com/builds/edit/?userbuild=THGG3C

First the bad; this machine is so slow coming from ones with SSDs but this is easily remedied by purchasing a small boot drive and mounting in any one of the slots and connecting it up to the PSU. Definitely do this as the HDD is a horrible bottleneck.

The RGBs need to be controlled with the MSI App but it keeps telling me that I need to update my VGA drivers (which I have done) so I can't control them. Mine came in purple by default. It's alright, a little annoying to unplug manually when I want them off which is most of the time since the default brightness is extremely high. Again, also minor.

The RX580 is also extremely power inefficient for gaming. It has the performance of a 1060 BUT draws as much power as 1080. It still takes 4 hours to use a kilowattt hour though so this is a few cents a day we are talking about here. More importantly, while mining it's supposedly very efficient.

Lastly, the R5 1400 is only 30$ less than the 1500 but significantly weaker. This is a bit of a letdown in an otherwise exceptionally well put together system but I haven't had much if any CPU bottlenecking/100% usage in my casual gaming (Dota 2, Witcher 3, nothing too CPU heavy like Arma, 4X games, etc.)

Otherwise, everything else is great. As you can see, the parts themselves retail for something close to 900$ (much more if you use the market value of the 580 rather than the MSRP) and they are sensible parts. All of them are off the shelf name brand products, none of that heavily customized impossible to modify junk. If you are very patient, you may be able to get most of these parts at a 25 - 30% discount yourself but at this point in time, when all the GPUs are OOS because of the bots are written by the miners and the people selling to miners, there is no way you will be able to afford a mid-level card like this and stay under 800$.

The case is very nice as are the CPU fan (which seems slightly silly since the stock Wraith Stealth is more than enough and would have saved them 20$, what are they even doing with all the free ones that come with the CPUs???) and the KB+M which seem to be about on par with my 25$ CM set (which is why I have it listed in the part list since it is a Cyberpower part that can't be bought separately). The mouse even comes with a weight set! It is nicer than any 10$ - 15$ mouse I have used but not as much as any 50$+ mouse. The included wifi adapter is also very nice.

The system works out of the box, if a bit slow since it is on a HDD (replace w SSD). One of my case fans was wired directly to the PSU and running at full speed. So I had to take unplug it and replug it into the motherboard, set it to DC smart fan in the BIOS and it was much quieter.

All in all, the build quality is exceptional, the parts are solid, and you're not going to be able to create a midrange machine at the same budget yourself at this point in time. Highly recommended! I bought 2 of them, one for myself and another for a friend. I hope enough of these are bought and industry will see that consumers are willing to pay for pre-builts with sensible part choices and good prices. The most helpful reviewer took 1 star off for the case fan tweak; I think that does CyberPower and Best Buy a disservice because this machine should rank much much higher than any other prebuilt on the entire site. The fix takes 2 minutes to remedy but it is a careless mistake that should not pass QA.

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CyberPowerPC - Gamer Ultra Gaming Desktop - AMD Ryzen 5 1400 - 8GB Memory - AMD Radeon RX 580 - 1TB Hard Drive - Black

What is the form factor for the M2 slot on the motherboard? Is it compatible with 2280 form factor SSD cards?

This PC is built with random parts of comparable quality and price point. Maybe if you go in person you can ask them to assemble it with a B350 motherboard that fits your SSD if it's also about 90$ (what my MSI Bazooka retails for).

6 years, 9 months ago

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CyberPowerPC - Gamer Ultra Gaming Desktop - AMD Ryzen 5 1400 - 8GB Memory - AMD Radeon RX 580 - 1TB Hard Drive - Black

When will this be on sale again?

You can find it on slickdeals at least and set it to send you an e-mail when it goes on sale and even how much off before they notify you. Maybe on bestbuy also, not sure.

6 years, 9 months ago

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CyberPowerPC - Gamer Ultra Gaming Desktop - AMD Ryzen 5 1400 - 8GB Memory - AMD Radeon RX 580 - 1TB Hard Drive - Black

Is this pc good for streaming?

It is probably* ok, not great, but very good at the price point. There are 4 cores and 8 threads. R5 1600 is fine for streaming, you can probably buy a 1600 and sell 1400.

6 years, 9 months ago

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CyberPowerPC - Gamer Ultra Gaming Desktop - AMD Ryzen 5 1400 - 8GB Memory - AMD Radeon RX 580 - 1TB Hard Drive - Black

How do I install the motherboard drivers? I went to the link provided on the motherboard driver dvd expecting it would get me to an install page and it did not. Is it safe for my PC to not undergo updating the drivers? It runs games amazingly though.

MSI's website is byzantine. I haven't bothered with it since the biggest thing about Ryzen motherboard updates are for better RAM compatibility with expensive RAM kits. This machine has the slowest (2133) RAM there is for DDR4 and it works at 2133. You should be fine.

However, do make sure you get the latest drivers for your GPU and also I recommend downloading MSI Afterburner and watching some tutorials about how to use it to do everything from overclocking, seeing your FPS in games and creating fan curves/manual adjusting fan speed/monitor temperatures.

Happy gaming!

6 years, 9 months ago

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CyberPowerPC - Gamer Ultra Gaming Desktop - AMD Ryzen 5 1400 - 8GB Memory - AMD Radeon RX 580 - 1TB Hard Drive - Black

How much more for adding 8 gb ram more?

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You have to check what your RAM kit is. Physically take it out, find a part number and buy another one. Personally I got Geil Evo Potenza 2133 which is about 50 - 60$ a stick.

6 years, 9 months ago

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