The marker tips were like they had been used right out of the package. They were soft (fat). I would NOT purchase these again. I don't think they will be lasting very long.
This is the second batch that I have purchased for my granddaughter to use. I bought her two books to teach her to draw and she can erase what she has drawn and reuse the pages & examples in the books utilizing the markers. I saved one black one for my whiteboard.