I like using the HP Laptop 17 inch. What I don't like is that the touchpad seems to be too touchy. There are times when you just lightly touch the pad and it changes what you were looking at.
I ordered my HP laptop thinking that i was getting an upgraded version of my old laptop. Unfortunately, many features of this new laptop are substandard. The camera installed on the laptop is not an IR camera, which is necessary to use the 'windows Hello' facial recognition security software; which is installed! The computer is clunky and the screen colors are not vivid. I would absolutely not buy this product again, despite the sale price.
This computer apparently does not have a back kit keyboard. Also, have to have Microsoft acct to even accomplish initial set up. User did not have nor wanted a Microsoft acct. Very dissatisfied with laptop to date.