[This review was collected as part of a promotion.] I Purchased the P17 (i9-10885H processor, UHD, 32GB ram, 1TB SSD) as a replacement for my aging W540 (3K display) which has been running almost continuously for 6 years. I do mostly code development for embedded systems and some web development with graphics manipulation. I like having high resolution as it gives me maximum desktop space when on the road without having to rely on external monitors.
With this purchase I wanted to avoid problems experienced with the W540 while retaining the track point. The W540 has a weird keyboard layout that forces you off center and the integrated touch pad/mouse buttons never worked right. It also runs very hot all the time and slows down significantly when it is really cooking.
So far ( a week or so) the P17 has been a marked improvement in almost every way. It does not run hot although I have not really stressed it yet. The keyboard/track point/mouse buttons are excellent, the power management, sleep/hibernate startup times, fingerprint reader, and networking are all very responsive.
It is a heavy beast but my W540 was heavy as well so it is really no different if you are used to that kind of thing. I expect it to be a computing engine with full workstation ability so I am not put off by the size or weight. Given the 17" form factor I don't expect to be using it on airplanes unless I have the luxury of biz class but it is manageable and getting to the destination with a full on workstation in hand is very powerful.
The display at max resolution is gives you a great desktop to spread out documents and code. However, given the fine point size, you may need to dig out your reading glasses. Screen contrast/intensity is even and bright but I'm not doing fine color rendering so I can't comment on the accuracy.
Computing performance seems pretty good although at this point I have not stressed the machine in any significant way. Most of the work has involved migrating and installing development tools of various sorts. The SSD disk is obviously a great improvement over prior SATA drives.
This is my 4th Thinkpad starting with the original IBM manufactured models and all have all have given me great productive lifetimes. In the few cases I've had repair issues, the service was quick and responsive. I'm looking forward to using this tool for the next 5-7 years.
[This review was collected as part of a promotion.] Love this computer because of how fast it is and also the fact that I can expand upon it and add memory and other things easily to increase it's power. It's been great so far. Love it.
[This review was collected as part of a promotion.] Solid, heavy, powerful. The fan doesn't scream constantly.
I would recommend this to a friend!
Written by a customer while visiting lenovo.com
Customer Rating
1
VERY SLOW
on January 20, 2021
Posted by: Alanb777
from Beaverton Oregon
Operating/processing VERY SLOW.
Ran included diagnostics three (3) times. None of them completed, therefore no codes to report. All stopping was in various parts of memory test (none the same).
Over time the speed of operations has mysteriously improved somewhat.
Support is very hard to use. (I have bee unable to use it)
I am nearing the point of distrust in the future operation of the unit.
It is very close to the expiration of the 30 day limit for returns
Thanks,
No, I would not recommend this to a friend.
Response from lenovo.comBy Adrian_Lenovo, Customer Service, January 25, 2021
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[This review was collected as part of a promotion.] Great speed and power, but not the lightest laptop. Perfect for a powerful home docking station and occasional travel . . .
[This review was collected as part of a promotion.] Very fast computer! Easy to set up right out of the box. The screen resolution is the best I have seen! Get one!
[This review was collected as part of a promotion.] This is my 8th ThinkPad in the past 20 years and I'm pretty thrilled with it so far. It's replacing a well-loved W530, which I'm keeping too. This is quite the upgrade. The 4K screen is glorious, I strongly recommend paying the extra for that feature, you will not regret it. What else can I say? It's a premium grade business laptop. The gold standard by which all other business laptops are measured. If, like me, you're unimpressed with sharp-edged alumimum laptops with too-shallow keyboards and other ergonomic compromises, you'll love the P17. It feels like it was hewn out of a solid block of polycarbonate and carbon fiber. Solid and substantial, but not heavy. It's covered in a lovely and durable soft-touch material which feels worlds better than anodyzed aluminum to me. The aluminum is durable, but it feels incredibly unfriendly to me, especially with the unnecessarily sharp edges. This ThinkPad by comparison feels almost organic. It feels just right beneath the wrists. The keyboard is superb. If you're used to ThinkPads, you'll be right at home. If you're used to anything else, you're in for a treat. As for the rest of the machine, it has all the features you'd want out of a premium business laptop or workstation/desktop replacement. It's fast, virtually silent most of the time, it runs cool. It has solid selection of well-placed ports. The power and Ethernet ports are out back where they stay out of the way. The whole unit exemplifies the top tier design ethos and material quality that ThinkPads are legendary for. If I had a criticism it would only be that it's a shame Lenovo has not yet managed to update it to 11th gen core processors (or better yet, offer an AMD Ryzen option). If Ryzen had been offered, I would have taken it. But the 10th gen Core i7 is more than sufficient and they go all the way up to i9's and Xeons, if you're so inclined. You get 4 RAM slots which can host up to a ludicrous 128 GB of RAM (I got 16 GB, which I'll upgrade to 32 GB total myself). The bottom of the machine is simple to access in classic ThinkPad fashion. All you need to do is loosen a few captive phillips head screws and you can upgrade SSD and RAM or service your own machine easily. I am actually a long time Mac user as well, but I've owned more ThinkPads than Macs. macOS is still the superior operating system without a doubt, but Apple just keeps disappointing me with their hardware decisions which makes it really hard to shell out money on a new one. The new Apple Silicon processors have exceptional performance, battery life and thermals that leave Intel and AMD in the dust....but you cannot even upgrade your own SSD now! Everything is soldered to the board. Forget repairing your own machine outside of warranty, much less adding RAM or a bigger/faster new SSD. No longer an option. This is unacceptable Apple. Especially in an allegedly "pro" grade device. You want to make a consumer MacBook Air with soldered RAM and SSD? Go right ahead I guess. But if you're going to call a machine "pro" and ask more than $1000 for it, I'd better be able to open it without needing to fight through adhesives or buy special arcane tools and I better be able to repair and upgrade the SSD and RAM. Especially if you're going to charge twice the price for RAM upgrades at time of purchase. Enough ranting about Apple though. I recommend the P17 heartily, though if you can wait (I couldn't) you might consider hanging on until the 2nd gen P17 comes out since it should have 11th gen core CPU's (and if we're REALLY lucky, maybe an AMD Ryzen option, though I won't hold my breath on that one). The performance difference with the 11th gen isn't huge and the P17 has discrete graphics, so I wasn't as concerned about missing out on the new Xe graphics as I might have been otherwise, but if you can wait just the same, you might as well until the 2nd gen P17's drop.